Sunday, August 25, 2013

Encounter with an Asuric Being

May 15, 1962
(During the night of April 3, Mother had encountered an asuric being who had managed to assume Sri Aurobindo's appearance, as well as a group of people wanting to found a Nietzschean-type religion. Following this encounter, a heart attack had gravely endangered Mother's life. But this was not the first such meeting.)

I had said [on April 3] I would find the date of my first encounter with that fake Sri Aurobindo. What I found was the date of another experience that followed that encounter by perhaps three or four weeks, so that pins it down (Mother holds up an old desk-calendar page on which she had written.)http://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/ma/agenda_03/e.gif“Night of July 24-25, '59: first penetration of the supramental force into the body. Sri Aurobindo alive in a concrete and permanent subtle physical body.”
I told you about that experience of meeting Sri Aurobindo (the true Sri Aurobindo) in the subtle physical. This is the exact date – early that morning I jotted it down on this paper. And it gives me the approximate date of the other vision: that is, I must have had my first experience with those people somewhere around the end of June or the beginning of July, 1959.
Did I tell you about it?... It was a sort of vision that I took for a beginning of work on the subconscient. I had come to a place where Sri Aurobindo was staying and found him closeted in his room. There was a sort of large hall, an immense hall with rooms opening onto it, and his apartment was off to one side (gesture). I asked to see him. I was told it wasn't possible and I had to wait. I was astonished. Then certain things happened in the hall concerning A. and M. (rather interesting things, but concerning them personally). And at the same time, I was waiting. When it was all over, I asked once again to go into the room. Then through the doorway I saw... I saw a tall Sri Aurobindo – much taller than he actually was – strong but rather thin, thin in a way that... not the way he really was – it was rather a gauntness, very harsh, very cold; and he was somewhat darker than he used to be. I saw him there, walking up and down; and when he was told I was asking to see him, I saw him in the distance saying, “No, I don't want to see her. I won't acknowledge her and I don't want anything to do with her – she has betrayed me.” Something like that (I couldn't hear the actual words, but the gestures were plain enough). Well, that was the very first time – nothing of the kind had ever occurred before.
And I immediately felt that it was the expression of certain people's thoughts. During the war there was a whole clique (I know their names and all the details) who said I had influenced Sri Aurobindo, made him deviate from his nationalist path and turn towards the Allies; they considered me to have ruined his life, his consciousness, his work – everything, you understand.1http://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/ma/agenda_03/e.gif And I was seeing the very IMAGE of that in this vision. A person I won't name (but I spoke to him afterwards; he's still here) came out of the room to tell me all this. In my vision I told him two things (it seems very distant now – it was back in '59 – and I no longer recall if I told him one thing after the other or both together). First of all, I protested against everything that fake Sri Aurobindo was saying about me, and at the same time I was going towards the person coming out of the room (it's someone living here, you know, who is, who was quite close to Sri Aurobindo. Apparently he was under the influence of certain doubting thoughts, certain doubts, that's why he was there). I called him by name and spoke to him in English: “But surely we have had a true spiritual relationship, a true union!...” Immediately he melted and said yes, and rushed headlong into my arms. In other words, that was his conversion, and that's why I spoke to him about it afterwards; I didn't tell him about the experience but I spoke of the doubt that was in him. It was truly a beginning of conversion in one part of his being, and for that reason I won't name him. And along with this, in answer to what that fake Sri Aurobindo was saying, I said forcefully (also in English): “This means the negation of all spiritual experience!” And immediately the whole scene, the whole construction, everything – poof! Vanished, dissolved. The Force swept it all away.
Later, when I had that second vision [April 3, 1962], I saw that the same being was behind this would-be Sri Aurobindo (and with a whole group organized around him – people, ceremonies and so on). So from that I concluded that the thing had been developing. But when I first encountered those people [in 1959] it was merelyhttp://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/ma/agenda_03/e.gif something in the Subconscient and the effect was only psychological (an hour or two was enough to sort things out and put them in order). It didn't affect my health. But this time....
So it was in '59 that I first saw them, and it must have been the end of June or the beginning of July. This note[the desk-calendar page] is what gave me the clue, because I know that the other experience [of Sri Aurobindo in the subtle physical] came a few weeks later.
You say there was a whole group organized around that asuric being – people, ceremonies....
Ceremonies?
You can take that out – it's not that sort of thing; it was a whole ORGANIZATION.
But what I would like to ask is whether those people exist in the subtle physical or in our physical world....
No, no – my visions are in the subtle physical, but those people exist here on earth, although I don't know who they are.... As I said, I knew only one of them. But it's certain that a physical organization corresponding to these visions does exist. I don't know the details – they just haven't been given to me. But it corresponds to a group of PHYSICAL people.
Powerful?
I don't know. I don't know them.
There is certainly at least one Tantric among them – and a highly skilled Tantric, someone who knows his business. That, yes – all the signs are there!
But how powerful are they outwardly?... The people around that fellow [the fake Sri Aurobindo], who leveled all those reproaches at me, used to be in the Ashram – they have since left. They were quite real. But the ones in the last group [in the most recent vision], I don't know – I don't know them physically, so I can't say.
One day, perhaps, I'll find out.
                                                                                                - The Mother

(Mother’s Agenda, pp. 140-143)







Thursday, August 22, 2013

The Aurovilian Must Not Be A Slave To His Desires


(I do not know who told you that  but there is a misunderstanding somewhere because to hand over the management of Auroville to any country or any group however big it may be is an absolute impossibility. Blessings, The Mother)


We should teach them to free themselves from the idea of personal possession.... You see, everything belongs to the Divine, and the Divine gives you not only a center (the center of your individuality), but also the possibility of the personal use of a number of things; but you must take them all like that, as things LENT to you by the Divine. The Divine is eternal, of course, he is everlasting, as they say in English, and at the same time as he creates this individual center, a number of things are there to be used for his work, so those things are LENT. That's exactly the point: you hold them in your possession for a time.
It's to uproot the sense of personal possession.
- THE MOTHER
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June 3, 1970
Yesterday we started a work for Auroville, that is to say, we're basically trying to give people from “Aspiration” an idea, simply, of what Aurovilians want: why they are here and what they want. Because it appears that... in fact they've no idea about it. Each one of them came expecting something, but all that isn't coordinated, it's not clear. So R. asked me to clearly express important points. I thought it would be better to do it with the people so as to know what they themselves want, and to have them make an effort to find out. Otherwise... So we started yesterday (Mother takes out a piece of paper).
Yesterday I asked C.1, “But why does one live in Auroville?” So he gave me the first paragraph:
To be a True Aurovilian
1. The will to consecrate oneself entirely to the Divine.
That's what HE said. I found it fine.
After listening inwardly, I added this:
2. The Aurovilian must not be a slave to his desires.
The idea is this: “We come to Auroville to escape social and moral rules that are artificially practiced everywhere, but it is not to live in the licentiousness of the satisfaction of every desire: it is to rise above desires in a truer consciousness.” Something like that.... It appears they quite need this! (Mother laughs) So we should add it.
We could draw up a whole program, that would be interesting enough.
Yes, but in the practical order, until people go a little behind appearances and stop living on the surface of themselves, nothing will mean anything!
But all that is precisely what they need to be told!
So the first necessity is to go deep down into themselves, a little. Because even if you tell them “the Divine,” what does it mean to their surface consciousness?
Yes.... For him, this boy, it has a meaning, but for most others...
Yes. it doesn't mean anything.
So we should put: “The first condition is the inner discovery....”
In the ideal order, the first condition is to need something other than the present world and human conditions.
That goes without saying.
Then, to reach there, the first condition is to descend deep down in oneself to find out what one IS behind all these hereditary, social, cultural appearances – what one truly is. Then, at that stage, things take on a meaning, but before that they don't mean anything. Before that, they have the meaning given in morality, religion, philosophy – they mean nothing.
So we'll put (Mother writes): First essential condition...
It's more than a condition, it's a necessity.
1. The first necessity is the inner discovery so as to find out what one truly is behind all social, moral, cultural...
Racial?
Oh, yes.
... racial, hereditary appearances.
But then, we should tell them that there IS a discovery to be made, because many don't know it at all! (Mother laughs)
In the center, there is a free being, vast and knowing, which awaits our discovery and must become the acting center of our being and our life in Auroville.
Then, after that, shall we put this (Mother points to the former first point on the consecration to the Divine), or something else?... It seems to me that this is more an accomplishment, something that comes at the end.
(long silence)
We should teach them to free themselves from the idea of personal possession.... You see, everything belongs to the Divine, and the Divine gives you not only a center (the center of your individuality), but also the possibility of the personal use of a number of things; but you must take them all like that, as things LENT to you by the Divine. The Divine is eternal, of course, he is everlasting, as they say in English, and at the same time as he creates this individual center, a number of things are there to be used for his work, so those things are LENT. That's exactly the point: you hold them in your possession for a time.
It's to uproot the sense of personal possession.
(silence)
That would be interesting: “The description of the citizen of tomorrow's city.”
There's the second paragraph on desires, and the third would be on personal possession.
The only true way to cure desires is to give oneself to the Divine and accept what He gives you as the only things you need. But that's already very advanced.
At the beginning, you said that Aurovilians have come “to escape moral conventions, etc., but not to give free rein to licentiousness....”
Yes, that's right (Mother writes):
2. One lives in Auroville to be free from moral and social conventions; but that freedom must not be a new slavery to the ego, its desires and ambitions.
Is that all? It's enough for today!
If you want to connect this to the other paragraph, might we say something like, “Desire is the most powerful distorter of the inner discovery”?
Ah, yes. (Mother writes)
The fulfillment of desire bars the road to the inner discovery, which can only take place in the peace of perfect disinterestedness.
One word comes to me, Mother: not only peace, but transparency.
Yes (Mother writes):
... in the peace and transparency of perfect disinterestedness.
It'll become something interesting!
That's the basis. Then there's the third paragraph. You said, “The Aurovilian must free himself from the idea of personal possession.”
But it's not the “idea,” it's the “sense”! (Mother writes)
3. The Aurovilian must free himself from the sense of personal possession. For our transition in the material world, what is indispensable to our life and action is put at our disposal....
You don't say by whom?
(Mother laughs) No!... By the All-Possessing!
... according to the place we are to occupy.
Mother, I'd like to add: The more we are in contact with our inner being, the more the exact means are given to us.
Oh, that's fine (Mother writes):
The more we are CONSCIOUSLY in contact with our inner being, the more the exact means are given to us.
It'll become interesting!
It gives them the basis.
Oh, but we'll be able to do something interesting!
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*   *
(Soon afterwards, Mother starts looking for her old Savitri notebooks in the middle of an incredible heap of boxes, pieces of paper, objects....)
When I was a child (about twelve years old) I knew nothing of spiritual things, my family lived in a completely materialistic atmosphere; but once, I saw something in a dream: a being came to me, a woman, and she told me, “What you need you will always have in abundance.” That was Nature, material Nature, the same being I always saw later on. And it's true, absolutely true! (Mother, laughing, shows the jumble around her) Later, when I saw Théon, he explained to me; but at that time, I knew nothing at all, it wasn't made up by my thought, it came without my knowing anything: “What you need you will always have in abundance.” (Mother laughs) It's true!

- Mother's Agenda, Vol. 11, pp. 223-227

Tuesday, August 20, 2013

Mother's Agenda : tape recordings made by Satprem, Part II (1966-1973)

1966
22/01/6624:41
31/01/6604:53
11/02/6607:18
26/02/6619:03
4/03/6652:59
9/03/6632:23
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30/03/6606:35
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2/06/6617:21
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11/06/6617:38
25/06/6605:59
6/07/6604:52
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30/07/6605:33
3/08/6639:48
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31/08/6635:20
3/09/6604:27
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30/09/6627:46
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26/10/6621:35
29/10/6632:15
30/10/6621:29
3/11/6619:40
9/11/6618:04
15/11/6612:58
19/11/6606:25
26/11/6627:43
7/12/6638:19
21/12/6615:04
24/12/6605:13
31/12/6606:51

1967
11/01/6712:02
14/01/6712:20
18/01/6721:38
21/01/6716:40
25/01/6708:36
8/02/6723:40
18/02/6736:06
25/02/6721:44
2/03/6719:59
4/03/6711:16
7/03/6717:50
15/03/6721:37
22/03/6718:52
25/03/6708:59
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12/04/6711:39
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3/05/6738:00
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7/06/6727:49
14/06/6701:07:36
24/06/6731:05
5/07/6721:19
12/07/6712:12
15/07/6745:33
19/07/6721:44
26/07/6721:00
29/07/6727:50
2/08/6730:05
12/08/6716:42
16/08/6711:34
19/08/6726:52
26/08/6732:13
30/08/6726:36
6/09/6716:50
13/09/6718:46
16/09/6701:29
20/09/6720:03
30/09/6729:06
4/10/6717:41
11/10/6731:46
19/10/6726:58
21/10/6726:37
25/10/6704:00
30/10/6715:47
8/11/6711:34
10/11/6700:56
15/11/6735:46
22/11/6747:17
6/12/6729:24
8/12/6707:45
20/12/6728:14
27/12/6713:24
30/12/6736:47

1968
6/01/6814:43
31/01/6806:01
3/02/6849:58
7/02/6808:54
10/02/6812:28
17/02/6803:14
20/02/6817:14
28/02/6805:38
13/03/6815:50
16/03/6835:37
27/03/6806:16
3/04/6815:24
10/04/6837:33
4/05/6821:49
18/05/6855:19
22/05/6848:50
15/06/6801:09:56
26/06/6817:55
29/06/6839:49
6/07/6803:45
10/07/6821:54
20/07/6835:45
7/08/6813:16
28/08/6855:22
30/08/6804:47
4/09/6826:28
7/09/6820:13
11/09/6820:46
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25/09/6834:57
28/09/6820:28
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26/10/6847:14
30/10/6816:26
6/11/6824:44
9/11/6846:43
16/11/6821:37
23/11/6844:11
27/11/6824:53
4/12/6838:59
11/12/6820:34
21/12/6827:59
28/12/6811:14

1969
1/01/6935:46
4/01/6911:13
8/01/6909:16
18/01/6916:46
22/01/6906:48
5/02/6933:24
8/02/6937:44
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19/02/6929:01
26/02/6924:41
12/03/6938:07
15/03/6906:39
19/03/6921:43
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5/04/6903:34
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12/04/6908:44
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19/04/6922:49
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26/04/6923:43
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3/05/6936:24
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31/05/6945:31
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25/06/6920:05
28/06/6917:12
12/07/6946:21
19/07/6930:56
23/07/6918:28
26/07/6930:19
30/07/6939:06
6/08/6919:04
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30/08/6928:52
3/09/6909:37
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15/11/6923:39
19/11/6957:34
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29/11/6936:36
10/12/6911:23
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1970
3/01/7058:40
10/01/7017:57
17/01/7001:19:20
28/01/7009:04
31/01/7014:25
7/02/7032:17
21/02/7006:48
28/02/7022:18
14/03/7052:29
18/03/7037:31
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1/04/7017:16
4/04/7031:40
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18/04/7058:47
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2/05/7040:42
9/05/7038:35
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27/05/7028:26
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27/06/7018:09
1/07/7010:36
4/07/7022:49
11/07/7042:17
22/07/7004:11
25/07/7037:05
5/08/7022:45
2/09/7009:05
5/09/7037:09
9/09/7035:16
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16/09/7038:38
28/10/7004:53
31/10/7014:17




1971
16/01/7143:20
17/01/7112:14
20/02/7114:07
24/02/7133:46
3/03/7119:09
17/03/7118:34
14/04/7120:43
1/05/7110:58
8/05/7121:22
12/05/7119:54
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26/05/7101:40
2/06/7107:53
9/06/7119:05
3/07/7124:10
10/07/7120:14
21/07/7120:36
7/08/7112:51
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18/08/7107:38
14/08/7111:12
18/08/7107:38
21/08/7113:24
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1/09/7112:23
4/09/7113:11
8/09/7110:59
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1972
8/01/7220:22
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9/02/7219:37
16/02/7211:13
26/02/7217:27
8/03/7215:59
25/03/7224:45
29/03/7222:41
3/04/7208:09
5/04/7212:20
12/04/7218:02
15/04/7219:47
26/04/7239:04
6/05/7229:26
13/05/7212:35
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27/05/7222:00
31/05/7224:31
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1973
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